From: sls <hiz--tr..@..landnet.com>
Date: 2008-07-01 09:46:24
Message ID: <48697E60.1060302@islandnet.com>
Subject: Re: View this page "FAQ English"
Date: 2008-07-01 09:46:24
Message ID: <48697E60.1060302@islandnet.com>
Subject: Re: View this page "FAQ English"
Edward Lipsett wrote:
> Additions have been made to the preamble, and a new item No. 10 has
> been added. While this certainly won't resolve all our problems,
> hopefully it will help.
Hi Ed, both additions are useful, methinks, but i have serious doubts
about the issue of "copyright" (to say that copyright questions are a
disputed territory would be the understatement of the day): which
country's copyright rules apply? Although the word "copy" is at the root
of "copyright", actual copying" of a given text is in many cases the
least thing to worry about - instead there are concerns about other
issues (to the extent they are covered by copyright law), such as an
author's wish not to be misquoted (apparently quoted but with
alterations made to the text), not to see their text attributed to
somebody else, and not to see parts of their text (accurately) quoted
but, since taken out of context (which may include being inserted into a
different context), to imply something quite different from the author's
intentions or views and thus potentially harming their reputation.
In short, i think "we" should not go any further than to state that "the
author may have (retain) copyright" (i.e., "may have" or "may retain"
instead of "retains"). The uncertainty surrounding this issue comes out
in the next sentence you wrote: "That means, in theory, you should get
the permission of the original poster before copying it anywhere." I
would suggest to amend this sentence to read, "That means, you are best
advised to get the permission of the original poster before copying it
and posting it anywhere else." (To explain why this change: "should" may
not apply in many cases, and the mere act of copying a given post from a
public list - say for my private archive - does not compel me to ask for
permission, and i doubt many courts in the world would grant a given
author the right to limit said copying, since posting a message to a
list certainly - even if only implicitly - gives other list members
_some_ rights in regards to that message, such as the right to _copy_
it. BIANAL...)
FWIW...
Thanks & regards: Hendrik
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> Additions have been made to the preamble, and a new item No. 10 has
> been added. While this certainly won't resolve all our problems,
> hopefully it will help.
Hi Ed, both additions are useful, methinks, but i have serious doubts
about the issue of "copyright" (to say that copyright questions are a
disputed territory would be the understatement of the day): which
country's copyright rules apply? Although the word "copy" is at the root
of "copyright", actual copying" of a given text is in many cases the
least thing to worry about - instead there are concerns about other
issues (to the extent they are covered by copyright law), such as an
author's wish not to be misquoted (apparently quoted but with
alterations made to the text), not to see their text attributed to
somebody else, and not to see parts of their text (accurately) quoted
but, since taken out of context (which may include being inserted into a
different context), to imply something quite different from the author's
intentions or views and thus potentially harming their reputation.
In short, i think "we" should not go any further than to state that "the
author may have (retain) copyright" (i.e., "may have" or "may retain"
instead of "retains"). The uncertainty surrounding this issue comes out
in the next sentence you wrote: "That means, in theory, you should get
the permission of the original poster before copying it anywhere." I
would suggest to amend this sentence to read, "That means, you are best
advised to get the permission of the original poster before copying it
and posting it anywhere else." (To explain why this change: "should" may
not apply in many cases, and the mere act of copying a given post from a
public list - say for my private archive - does not compel me to ask for
permission, and i doubt many courts in the world would grant a given
author the right to limit said copying, since posting a message to a
list certainly - even if only implicitly - gives other list members
_some_ rights in regards to that message, such as the right to _copy_
it. BIANAL...)
FWIW...
Thanks & regards: Hendrik
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